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I hadn't liked the idea at
all, but the former President,

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President Johnson, had repeatedly said

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how crazy it would be
to remove the system,

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which he felt was the best way...

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Well, in boxing, you know,
there's always that first moment,


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and you see it in the challenger's face.

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It's that moment that he feels

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the impact from the champ's first jab.

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It's kind of a sickening
moment, when he realizes that

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all those months of
pep talks and the hype,

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the psyching yourself up,
had been delusional all along.

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You could see it in Frost's face.

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If he didn't know the caliber of the man

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that he was up against
before the interview started,

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he certainly knew it halfway
through the President's first answer.

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You see, since the best advice is

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almost always of the
confidential variety,

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now the tapes have been made public,

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people are unlikely
ever to feel comfortable

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speaking in confidence
at the White House.

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They're less likely to offer
that advice. So in the end,

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it's the whole political system and,

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by implication, it's
the country that suffers.

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So much for our "ballsy" opening.

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So when did you actually decide...

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At what moment did you know
you were going to resign?

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That's good. That's good.

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I remember exactly. It was July 23.

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After it was clear
the Southern Democrats

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that were still against impeachment had

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had the screws put on them
by the Speaker of the House.

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That night I said to Al Haig, "Well,
that's it. There goes the presidency."

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And, of course, you know, being Al,

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he tried to talk me out of it.

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And Vice President Ford,
I mean, let's not forget


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he had the most to gain
personally from my stepping down,

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he was still absolutely convinced that

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we were gonna win the impeachment vote,

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and comfortably. John,
we have to do something.


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We have to move this along.

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This is desperate, John. Do something.

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